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Post by Quaetam on Jun 23, 2012 9:22:16 GMT -4
Seriously though, after seeing the attention you've been paying I almost feel the need to APOLOGIZE for prodding you to be more active. This will be a good game...
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Post by johnny on Jun 23, 2012 10:26:55 GMT -4
Nah it's good. I made all those notes from scratch last night. I have to revise some of them.
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Post by surge on Jun 23, 2012 15:50:46 GMT -4
This is the best thread on the maf forum and an amazing resource for picking out the location of "that one post that totally makes that guy look bad that I can use." Great work Johnny.
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Post by Quaetam on Jun 23, 2012 16:45:01 GMT -4
Yeah I have to agree; I have no idea why this hasn't been done more directly in the past. Similar things have happened using general discussion threads, but never this concise; well done.
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Post by johnny on Jun 25, 2012 5:16:06 GMT -4
PAGE 11
DF posts about Snake. Not sure what to think of this post, but this is well within the "DF is more townie than scummy" line of thinking.
Rather wordy post from Surge dodging DF's defense of Avos. Wasn't a fan of this post at first, but when Avos flipped SK it became good.
Pineapple posts some fluff, but it's connected to DRTJR. May be useful.
DF posts some good ol' fashioned WIFOM. "If I was scum, would I really..." Also says Ammy can't be a bad guy, calls out surge, and looks genuinely paranoid.
Raya is drunk and tired. Talks about roles and refutes Relm. Nothing incredibly useful.
Avos posts trying to condemn Surge, Relm, and DRTJR as mafia. gives honorable mention to 260 and Omicron. (Also softly implies that DF is conftown, which would be useful if he wasn't dead)
260 has an excellent post saying DF is NOT confirmed, throws some professional sarcasm at avos, points out a problem I've been seeing people have ("I don't think Q would" is a stupid defense and a stupid conversation. Read the players, not the mod.) I have a feeling me and this 260 fellow would get along.
Abrams focuses on the lack of lynch rather than the large argument happening around him. Says he's behind.
Obligatory humongous post from surge that I'm not even sure I read. (Lazy + Slow reader)
Snake scares me HARD with a followup to Surges post. He was trying to clue people in to your scumminess here. WOULDN'T YOU SAY is huge. YOU WOULDN'T SAY THAT IF YOU WERE TOWN maybe? Also he says he's caught on and just has to wait.
Ansem votes Avos with little stated reasoning
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Post by johnny on Jun 25, 2012 5:37:24 GMT -4
PAGE 12 Avos begs for his life based on Ansem's shitty vote DRTJR posts some odd shit while voting Avos. Maybe I just don't get his English, but this post makes almost no sense to me Minby posts everything we'd want him to. Votes Avos, says DF isn't clear. Avos appeals to emotion knowing he has nothing more to say Ansem trollpost Avos apologizes and focuses on Surge. Lovely laylow post from myself with mysterious yet understandable reasoning. (I'm a bragger, what can I say? ) Warchamp nothingpost. Biggest votegetter looks scummy. Yesterday's biggest votegetter looks scummy. Did that threat to use a specific power mean he claimed? Raya tells us about his reads on Avos and DRTJR. Votes Avos. Should probably bring this up when/if DRTJR flips townie. DF gets washy on the surge crusade. Also suggests Avos lives to prove his vig claim. May be useful. Eisen posts.. nothing. Yup. Nothing. DF responds to nothing with hypotheticals. Fed unvotes, hops on the 'Avos lives' wagon and points out Ansem. I continue to think he's the best scum player without knowing it. Smashbro votes for meta reasons (grrr)
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Post by johnny on Jun 25, 2012 5:58:13 GMT -4
PAGE 13
Maybe it's my paranoia, but Snakes post just freaks me out. He mentions the three biggest votegetters specifically before voting Minby. The line "I would fit between ansem and smash, surge would be in the middle" HAS to mean something.
Req says he trusts Avos, votes surge, and says he also suspects Raya. Interesting post. "I Suspect You Both of Being Mafians" is weird to me because every word is capitalized.
Surge defense post. Hate the argument. Meta is a silly reason to vote someone. Maybe you just wanted to try a different approach this game? You shouldn't get punished for it.
Raya catches onto what Snake seems to be trying to do.
DF analyzes the top post by snake and votes surge based on iffy logic that sounds genuine.
Snake... approves of DF's vote?
Sonix takes the cowards way out
DF consoles him rather than question his lazy post
Snake looks to congratulate Raya for bringing attention to him.
Pineapple votes avos with little reason. Mentions Req.
Fed panicvotes Surge to try and save Avos
260 picks up on Snake's madness claim.
Abrams likes Surge but doesn't trust him, FoS on DRTJR as well, and calls out Sonix with a single vote.
Eisen sheeps without shame
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Post by johnny on Jun 25, 2012 6:08:36 GMT -4
PAGE 14 (will edit as I see it)
DF disapproves of Eisen
Abrams posts wonderfully(for us), making snakes words fit his opinion rather than shape it. Mostly explanations. Will revisit this post if abrams becomes important.
JGH27 votes before reading.
Avos hops on the surge wagon out of desperation
Archer hops on the surge wagon without explanation
Omicron says it's silly to just assume Ammy is town and votes Avos. The second half of this post is faulty, but has more to do with game mechanics than this actual game so it's useless.
Day 2 over.
Fed assumes doc had a save
Abrams stays on Sonix
Ansem posts something I don't understand
Req is the first to stay on Surge
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Post by surge on Jun 25, 2012 15:53:32 GMT -4
These are hilarious, but some srs topics brought up:
Snake. I really wasn't concerned about anything snake was doing until you read into it as anti-surge posting. After a couple scrapes last phase I don't know if I could survive a showdown if snake goes for an all-in argument against me. I know I classically opposed this, but we might want to reconsider double drugging him. I want to know what you think, av.
Abrams. You know him better than I do, but right now, with his interpret of snake's post, implicitly complimenting me, and generally just buying into what I said, combined with the lack of familiarity this group has with him, could make an EXCELLENT scapegoat.
Shitty vote excuses. A lot of the votes piled onto me were done so with really flimsy/no reasoning. We can possibly try and say, if I have good momentum next phase and enough town following, that the people who tried to pile onto the last minute bandwagon against me did so under mafian direction to try and get a powerplayer lynched (me) over avos. The issue with this is that these people are generally the kind of posters to post without a lot of heavy reasoning anyways. I think putting pressure on them might squueeze out some shifty behavior we can capitalize on, but it's a big gambit, we're basically calling out like 5 people at once.
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Post by johnny on Jun 28, 2012 16:15:05 GMT -4
PAGE 15
Snake makes the best claim in the game (for us)
Camilla makes a nothingstatement that she probably would quote if anyone tells her she's useless today.
Snake says something that I don't comprehend
JGH claims to be confused by snake and that surge may still be scummy, but does nothing
My wagon startin' ass swoops in.
Req hops on Greenie
td hops on as well
Hekatomy Riagioafdjioa (<--not important enough to spell right) professionally makes up for lurking, doesn't vote and leaves with intent on staying away.
I continue to be awesome
I'm pretty sure snake tells me not to vote, but I stayed on it anyway. I can make the argument that this looks too crazy to understand, but he capitalized "No" in the middle of a sentence. And then he points to TD.
TD says he has no idea what that means.
Snake just rolls with it...?
Camilla wants to hear from Green
More snake nonsense X2
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Post by johnny on Jun 28, 2012 16:24:42 GMT -4
PAGE 16
A snake is a snake
Sonix pops in to vote with literally no explanation.
Minby votes sonix for this reason.
DF pops in to say he's been hacked.
DRTJR is here to vote Greenie.
I cover my ass
JGH votes sonix
Snake... says something.
Rel votes sonix. Wordily.
Green gets all defensive. There's some reference to past games here which is useless. Contrary to what I said in-thread, this is actually decent defense.
Smashing post using a good amount of reasoning. He's good, but doesn't vote. Doesn't really make sense to me. I have a feeling that he'll be onto me tomorrow when Archer flips town.
Snake votes Raya largely and insults someone in his next post
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Post by johnny on Jun 28, 2012 16:35:42 GMT -4
PAGE 17
Green again defends admirably considering the lack of good evidence on her.
Snake (I believe) tells us to examine more and points right at me. 4EVR YOUNG could easily be seen as pointing to me since I'm the newest here.
Green completely misreads.
Snake tells us to read again since we're misrepping him HARD.
Smash misreads and votes Snake for nonexistent scumminess.
Snake panics
Greenie votes snake (citing obvious mafia, to many laughs)
Snake pictochats
Warchamp buys the claim
Avalanche is that kind of wishy-washy that people think "He can't be Mafia, it's too obvious"
Sah comes in with the strangest vote so far, Fed. No way to know why. The reason is BS.
Hudson provides some much needed analysis of snake, which will take some of the heat off me (there's a post I make later that I regret)
Fed questions Sah and stays on Snake. He remains my favorite Mafian.
I'm pretty sure Sah softclaims something here. Not sure what, since Fed ISN'T actually mafia, but he's definitely struggling for attention.
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Post by johnny on Jun 28, 2012 16:53:09 GMT -4
PAGE 18
Smash with another "If I were Mafia, would I really do this?" <-- I hate those so much.
Snake posts
Lovely positioning for you, Surge. If I'm in trouble tomorrow, you're clear.
I laughed.
Green attacks those voting her
Req defends himself in light of Green's post
Camilla questions everyone on the Green Wagon and votes Sonix.
Abrams posts a bit and is just generally helpful. Great scapegoat in the future (or maybe traitor?)
Useless Req is useless.
This is the post I regret. I was decently drunk last night when I wrote it and I pushed a little too hard for a green lynch.
Snake gives up trying to tell us we're wrong.
Camilla questions me (I didn't notice this before, better say something)
After typing the above statement I see that I did say something. (I shouldn't drink and play mafia)
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Post by johnny on Jun 28, 2012 17:03:20 GMT -4
Page 19
Warchamp helps the Green movement
Snake .. hits on Green?
Greenie votes sonix lazily with a hint of panic
Rel moves to shift attention onto Sah in a weird post.
Snake votes DRTJR and tries to communicate something.
DRTJR links Sonix and Green together for seemingly no reason.
Hudson rightfully questions
Green stays defensive
Sah pushes Fed again, sticking to the softest of claims
Ansem hops on the Archer wagon scummily
Raya also votes Green. (Another great scapegoat post if snake gets out of this alive tomorrow)
Snake quotes Ansem
DRTJR asks what he means
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Post by johnny on Jul 2, 2012 22:28:40 GMT -4
PAGE 20
Angry Greenie
Greenie offers to claim
Snake says yes
Req says there's no point, we're killing Green anyway
Snake (now I know) basically says "Thanks for telling me I'm the roleblocker. I had no idea and never said such a thing"
Fed is Drunk and says Snake is bullshitting, commends Green for talking, votes Sonix, and addresses Sah. Good post.
I say some sexy, sexy words.
Camilla calls me a lemming (I sort of am. Just evil. EVILEMMMING)
I ask questions and defend
Crazy Sah is crazy (Calls out Fed again)
Snake says Sah is crazy
Sah = fluff
DF pops in and says lurking = scum (false) and says she'd vote for Sonix if she could
Smash makes a peculiar post about checking into Fed (quoting Sah in the process)
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